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 Map Redesign
Fangs Echidna
1:33am, March 24, 2013
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So, the comics finally updated their maps a little while ago in the Sonic Encyclopedia. Here's a picture of the new map from the:


And here is our current map:


Should we change the map to more closely match the one from the Sonic Encyclopedia? Note that our current map, zones/locations that were already in the maps from previous Sonic comics stayed the same, however the comic artists themselves changed things for their new map, such as the geographical location of the Lethal Radioactive Zone. The new official map also has locations not previously mapped out, such as areas featured in the newer games, going all the way back to Sonic Adventure (Station Square). These include a few areas from Sonic Unleashed and Sonic 06 which I had tried to guess at their locations.
 
Conrad
2:05am, March 24, 2013
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I don't see a problem with this.

The only request I would make is that all our current locations are kept with the same names...even if their geographical location moves to match their equivalent on the new map (ie. Knothole matching where Knothole Ruins are....but staying as Knothole). The reason I request this is because many of the locations we have in chat have developed and changed based on our RPs and those events don't necessarily match the new stuff in the comics, etc (I'm sure you get what I mean).
 
Sean
2:51am, March 24, 2013
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Personally, I have a split opinion on the new map due to the fact that it drastically changes locations from last time. One that come to mind if Robotropolis and Knothole now being in new spots. However, I don't mind seeing some of the new spots added coming in with yours. In regards to the new ones I can imagine Granite Hill being close to or being part of the Baronies since Granite Hill is loosely based off the Georgia area. I also like to believe South Island and Westside are somewhere on those islands beneath Northamer.
 
Fangs Echidna
2:56am, March 24, 2013
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I will say this: if the old official map has locations that the new official map changed, I'm sticking with the old one. Main thing that would change would be any new locations added between the two official maps, and if those locations conflict with any current chat locations, I would relocate those. So basically all the UF locations would be corrected, and any chat-only locations would be relocated to an area agreed upon by whoever "runs" those locations, so to speak. For instance, Aurisar would have to be relocated, and I'd suggested it being off the coast just west of the fast travel gate by Mercia. Should that be acceptable to Gunnar, whose location that is, then problem solved.
 
Morph
12:34am, March 25, 2013
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Works for me.
 
Gunnar J Lunatri
6:47pm, March 25, 2013
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I dunno if a change is wholly necessary to be completely honest with you guys. As it is,people don't actually RP in a LOT of these locations,so what difference will a map change make? Then too as I've mentioned...there's the user included locations like Granite Hill,Aurisar and such...would those have to be moved too in favor of the new map?
 
Fangs Echidna
12:58pm, March 26, 2013
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To be totally honest, I've been wanting to do a complete revamp of the map to actually make an interactive Flash based map or globe, one where you could click on an area and get better detail on it. An example would be having the current world map, clicking on Angel Island, and it would change to a zoomed in map of Angel Island to show all the specific locations there. Carmen had talked about doing a Flash based map or globe a long time ago for PMC but had just never gotten around to getting it done.
 
Conrad
1:37am, March 27, 2013
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Thinking on what Gunnar's said and after thought myself, I'm kinda inclined to agree.

I'm not actually aware of many people who bother to take account of the actual co-ordinates of the locations....many seeming to think that Knothole is only a stones throw from Station Square and having their characters almost instantly get from one location to another (fast travel included, there's miles of ground to cover!).

If we're going to end up sacrificing the unique locations for the inclusion of areas which no-one has ever used in the chat...then I'm not really up for this.

PMC has developed into it's own world based on the Sonic world but having sheered off at the time of creation. Yes, we use Mobius and yes we use the locations and history...but this is OUR Mobius now. To start pushing aside other people's locations just to include those which we've never used seems a bit counter productive.

We've got loads of locations on the current map which are never used...so why add even more for people to ignore?

For me...if you're wanting to go for an updated map...why not work with the locations that people are using...refine the world and make it more accessible for people using these locations and for those who're joining the chat fresh?

You're looking at 68 locations on the "updated" map and then the addition of all the unique locations....Why not go with the way the world has been developed by the users of the chat? Why not use the Mobius as created through the dozens of RPs that have occurred in here and help create a universe that feels like it belongs to the people of the chat?.....Rather than carbon copy of what-ever Archie/Sega decide is the latest good idea.....
 
Fangs Echidna
2:57am, March 27, 2013
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Mostly because when asked several times, only three unique chat locations were asked to be included in the first place. And by the way, I have role played in a good chunk of the newer places, hence my making guesses on the map to include them. And honestly if people are having issues with individuals suddenly appearing in areas without including travel time or reason to be, that's up to those people to bring it up. I've always made sure, when I do rp, that I only rp as characters who would realistically be in an area, including travel time and reason to be there if they weren't there already.
 
Sean
3:43am, March 28, 2013
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Hmm~. The flash concept sounds interesting. Also as for the dilemma of GUN HQ and Aurisar overlapping I was thinking GUN HQ could be in the ocean since I seem to remember it being underwater IRP. At least that's what I remember last. Either that or it could possibly go where Central City is on your current map setup.
 
BlitzKrieg
4:27pm, March 28, 2013
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Despite the valid points presented by Conrad and Gunnar, I must say that the map needs an update here on PMC...that´s all.
 
Katrina E Williams
3:57pm, April 14, 2013
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I say keep the old one, but everyone agree on what needs to be placed. What location NEEDs to be known for RPs and other iconic cities of course. Then like maybe a main GUN base. I would like to add Oil Ocean Zone and The Captial up in the last orange patch up there in the right upper sandy area of the map. That is a place some of us RP, its the new capital of the Egg Empire. I'm sure people have other ideas though ^_^;.
 
Fangs Echidna
2:01am, April 23, 2013
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Oil Ocean is part of South Island, though.
 
Katrina E Williams
2:45pm, May 20, 2013
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If that's where its been being RPed the whole time then I'm sorry and keep it their, buuut if no one was going and this world isn't exactly like cannon all the way I would liked it moved. ONLY IF NO ONE IS RPING IT BEING THERE ALREADY o_o just to make that clear.
 
Fangs Echidna
3:43am, May 23, 2013
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Now that I think about it, Casino Night is on the mainland. Ok, that's actually no problem.
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