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Kensei
7:36pm, November 03, 2002
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[Delete] | Ok, just a Q.
Galaxy Class Starship vs. Star Destroyer
Say which would win. |
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AceOOC
8:17pm, November 03, 2002
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[Delete] | Need you even ask? SD! *blinks* wait....
*L* seriously, though.. Galaxy would whoop the SD six ways to Sunday... |
| YEah right |
Jon
8:24pm, November 03, 2002
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[Delete] | thats bullshit, the SD would beat them like red-headed stepchild. |
| *Just Blinks....* |
Kensei
8:45pm, November 03, 2002
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| The SD wins out right... |
Pogrom
10:44pm, November 03, 2002
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[Delete] | Go to Stardestroyer.net, they have calculations. |
| sry |
Kensei
3:45am, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | Sorry Pog, Jon, but are you two out of your fricken minds? |
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Sir Mike Of Decoyness
4:13am, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | Full fighter and troop details, I'll go with the SD (sorry Zon). Without, I'd put my money on the Galaxy Class. |
| hmmm |
Impersonating Kronos
9:34am, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | I would have to give it to the galaxy. For one a sd doesn't have shields to defend against a photon torp. Only ray shields and the shuttles on the galaxy would cause series damage to those fighters. Plus a photon torp is an anti matter explosion that cause a ton of damage and we know that a galaxy can take a beating from almost anything. Yes the sd has more lasers but the galaxy could keep doing in and out of warp attacks ((ala picard maneuver)) and the sd would not have a chance to lock on. Then there is the fact that it was stated that lasers can even make it through the navigational shields of the galaxy class. I would say a vsd would have a better chance and would more then likely win just because it could turn 250 cuccusion missles at the galaxy. Plus the galaxy could just use sweeping phaser fire to wipe out squads of fighters and the troop transports would end up getting blown up on the way there and if not the galaxy could just lock them up using shields and blast shields to be delt with later. So I would have to give it to the galaxy over the sd. |
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FALCON X-0N
10:39am, November 04, 2002
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FALCON X-0N
10:39am, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | EDIT: fucking enter key.
Wow, Kronos ol' buddy pretty much covered everything I was going to say. Which is a plus, cuz I'm half asleep.
Anyhoo, aside to what Kronos said, the missles on a VSD could be easily shot down an intercepted. Photons travel at a ratio of I think, .70c+Ship's velocity,provided it doesn't exceed warp 1. That's damned fast. This is why you usually don't see "Launch intercepts!" when encountering a photon attack. But Missles? Got that nailed.
Random thought: A Galaxy class could use its tractor beam in order to make sure the Star Destroyers weapons wouldn't get a clear shot. The Defiant did this, once.
Also, Star Wars ships move at MGLT, or MGLAT ratios. Roughly equivilent to either 10kph, or 440ish mps. Lets say the higher factor, even though its not technically "cannon". the average x-wing moves at 150ish MGLT.(like I said, its 5:45, doing math is a good way to wake up!) so, 440x150= 66,000 meters per second. damned, thats fast. whats full impulse again?
(wait for it)
One Quarter of the speed of light. 75,000,000ish meters per second. The Fighters and all would be taken out before they enter their own weapons range.
Pretty much, Star Destroyer would be taken out, unless it was a surprise attack on the Galaxy, in which case, it comes down to where hit and who's the Captain. (Kirk could beat a Star Destroyer with a fork and two staplers, what with his being Kirk and all).
Edited 11:53am, November 04 by FALCON X-0N, author. |
| whoa |
Jon
6:56pm, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | Okay we need to do some blancing if this is the way we're going to play now. Now to start stocking the trags with Sub-space weapons. But seriously. If we're going to play this way we need to get together and do a little bit of balancing. |
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Sir Mike Of Decoyness
7:13pm, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | No we don't need to start bullshitting and moding Jon. Use your fucking head. |
| Oh my fucking god... |
Pog
8:17pm, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | Photopr = 250 MT, ami right? where specifically does it state SDs move at 10KmPh, how short range SD weaponry is. to point out, Tubrolasers, which are neither laser nor laser, blast out at around 4 GT for a light one and an SD can take several of these shots with out shields. |
| corrections |
Pog
8:56pm, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | Photorp= 64 MT. LTL= 179 MT. |
| That's why you make your own tech and ships. |
JekNado
10:18pm, November 04, 2002
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| Oh My FUcking FUck fuck fuck Goddy fuck fuck.... |
FALCON X-0N
11:12pm, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | Megatons I do not believe are proper measures of energy weapons, which turbolasers still are, so I'm still gonna fight you/be damned confused about that.
Perkins-And when was the last time you saw me bitching about MGTLAT speeds? Thats NOT how we're going to play it. Just how we don't play that its heavily implied Wars ray shields let ion cannons through as they are set to only stop turbolasers(Essential Guide to Weapons and Tech).
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| New Thought! |
FALCON X-0N
11:36pm, November 04, 2002
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[Delete] | With all the Shinra/Trag/IS fighting lately, I got to thinking: Star Trek vs Star Wars in a ground fight. Who would win? Those Clone Troopers are bad ass, but Trek has transporters on their side. But still....I dont' really know. I'm going to side with Trek, but, its not as hard as a side... |
| wow.... |
Kensei
12:08am, November 05, 2002
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| Stormies take it. |
Pog
2:16am, November 05, 2002
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[Delete] | combined arms. stormie armor can stop most small-medium arms fire, blaster is same idea as a turbolaser, just scaled down. they got the numbers too.... Light turbo out put= 22,500 TW based off the vaporisation of 40 meter asteroids in TESB. |
| Don't know what the asteroid was made of... |
FALCON X-0N
3:00am, November 05, 2002
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[Delete] | but the real question is about the stormy armor. Starfleet has photon grenades, which are modifyed EMPs- -zap out the nervious system. Would stormie armor block that? if not, then there's a good chance Starfleet Ground Forces would be in for one hell of a battle. |
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Sir Mike Of Decoyness
5:59am, November 05, 2002
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[Delete] | Thermal detonators, concussion grenades... |
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Kensei
12:39pm, November 05, 2002
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[Delete] | isomagnetic disintergrator ....TR-116 ....reg. phasers...(then we sign alliance and put klingons and breen weapons into it*nods*) |
| And how much of this is standard issue? |
Pog
9:26pm, November 05, 2002
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[Delete] | Air strikes, planetary shields, combat droids, artillery, walkers, tanks, other things that make ouchies. Stormies have it. the asteroids were stony iron or carbonaceous. |
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Kensei
10:25pm, November 05, 2002
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[Delete] | trek has that stuff too, and our air strikes might hurt a bit more, depending
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| we never see it in series. |
Pog
11:18pm, November 05, 2002
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[Delete] | Ties blast the shuttles out of the air. Empire still wins
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| Ties blast? |
Kensei
12:00am, November 06, 2002
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[Delete] | Not shuttles Pog. Valks. Armed with quantoms and and photons, pulse phasers maybe...tractors phasers..Trek wins |
| Errr....dude, Kensei... |
Eric
5:55pm, November 06, 2002
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[Delete] | There's still mass numbers. You could have the world's greatest group of guys, but if enough people get thrown at 'em, you'll lose. It's simple like that. What the SW Universe lacks in super-great tech, they make up for in numbers. Therefore, SW wins. Eat it! |
| HA |
Kensei
1:55am, November 07, 2002
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[Delete] | Who ever said itd be in the SW universe? SO HA! |
| Fighters=Shuttles with a different look. |
Pog
3:27am, November 07, 2002
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[Delete] | Even if the empire invaded the ST galaxy(heh...), they'd still have the numbers. |
| Really? |
Kensei
3:47am, November 07, 2002
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[Delete] | With all the ships that wed have ready..and zons new hperspace knockout thingy? |
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Sir Mike Of Decoyness
4:40am, November 07, 2002
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[Delete] | Ken, SW has the numbers. It all comes down to the commanders though. I can't stress that enough. Tech means very little.
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"War is not about dying for your country, but making the other bastard die for his." 
Edited 5:43am, November 07 by Sir Mike Of Decoyness, author. |
| Fuck it |
Jon
6:53pm, November 07, 2002
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[Delete] | Scott, destroy the universe. NOW |
| Hold your digital horses there... |
Pog
12:27am, November 08, 2002
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[Delete] | we went from ST to the chat.... My thought this was Standard ST versus Standard SW.... |
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